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TOBACCO BUSINESS INTERNATIONAL

MARCH/APRIL 2015

new customers, so we incorporated

vaping into our tobacco stores,” Kathman

explains.

All four of his Cut Rate Tobacco stores

now sell wicks, starter kits and juice

brands using the store-within-a-store

concept he learned from his mentor.

“We call it Cincy Vapors Express,” he

says. “In our Cincy Vapors stores, we tell

customers we’ve got other stores around

town, and our business card has ‘Cincy

Vapors’ on the front and ‘Cincy Vapors

Express’ on the back. Some customers

don’t know [the Express stores are]

actually inside tobacco stores; they

never put two and two together.”

However, many customers do make

the connection, and some are offended

by the idea of going into a tobacco store

to buy vaping products, says Kathman.

“We have customers who will only come

into our Cincy Vapors stores because

they’ve kicked the habit and don’t want to

be reintroduced to tobacco,” he explains.

“Stopping smoking and moving to

vaping might have been a hard transition

for them,” he adds, “and they don’t want

to be tempted. I get it, and I try to smooth

it out with those customers. But vaping

is the future…that’s why I’m doing

this. I’ve seen people—my Cut Rate

Tobacco customers—use pills, patches,

gum, fake cigarettes and step-down

cigarettes, and every one of them comes

back to tobacco,” he says. “Vaping and

e-cigs give people the hand-to-mouth

experience that resembles cigarette

smoking, and it works for people who

have cessation goals in mind.

“Vaping is like the cell-phone

business of tobacco because you can

sell accessories,” he reveals. “In my

tobacco stores I sell plenty [of] packs

of Marlboros, but the customer doesn’t

want much more except maybe a lighter

every three weeks, or a cigar when they

have a baby—there aren’t add-on sales

there. In our Cincy Vapors stores, you get

upgrading, you get extra sales and there

are just more potential reasons to sell

products to customers. The bottom line

is profit margins. With cigarettes that’s

8 to 10 percent, but with vaping the sky

is the limit.”

Some customers understand, he says,

but others think it’s wrong, so Kathman

religiously works behind the counter

in his Cincy Vapors stores everyday

to check the pulse of what’s going on.

“I know what’s happening with new

products, I hear what the complaints and

gripes are, but this conflict, as people see

it, is huge, and when I say

huge

, that’s an

understatement.” Kathman unabashedly

acknowledges that he wants to capitalize

on the sales opportunity that vaping

represents to him as a retailer, but he also

wants to do the right thing for customers

who are confused by his dual interests.

“The business side of me says, ‘Grab

anything you can.’ So that means with

some people I have to appeal to their

heart with another part of the truth,” he

says. “Having the Cincy Vapors Express

stores inside Cut Rate Tobacco stores is a

way for me to sell more product, and that

means my people keep having jobs,” he

opines.

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“I know what’s

happening with

new products,

I hear what the

complaints and

gripes are, but

this conflict, as

people see it, is

huge, and when I

say

huge

, that’s an

understatement.”